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Jonathan Hadas Edwards's avatar

i don't think I've piped up here before, so let me take a minute to appreciate the passion, the depth, the detail of what you're doing here. I'm not a cheesemaker (not yet, anyway) but this sure makes me want to roam, sample, experiment, and get back into fermentation in general. salute!

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Trevor Warmedahl's avatar

Thanks Johnathan, I’m happy that to spoke up. There are so many paths to out there to explore.

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Fiona Balestrieri's avatar

Amazing information and beautifully written. Thank you for keeping my feral cheese flame alive as my cows are close to freshening and I get ready for another milking and cheese making season. So much creative and lateral thinking opens up as the elemental truths of the fermentation process become part of us.

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fichi & funghi's avatar

great content as always trevor! Perrone has been on my to-visit list for so long but you just gave me many reasons to actually go there soon

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Trevor Warmedahl's avatar

I hope you do, it’s a special place. The real deal.

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Jenna Rozelle's avatar

I opened your post just to save to read later but I got grabbed and carried all the way through and I’m so glad I did. Kind of a bleak morning over here in all ways and this snapped me out of - reminded me of brightness and beauty and butter - thank you.

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Trevor Warmedahl's avatar

Thank you, this encourages me to keep doing this, to know words can cross space and carry meaning.

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Angie Stegall's avatar

Wild food is a marvel! Please keep learning, writing, and sharing!

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Stefano Buckley's avatar

Fascinating read as always. I'm curious about this idea of feeding colostrum to the dogs as I've always understood it to be a rare elixir of calf-goodness that's essential to inoculating the little vitelli with microbes and motherly nutrients. Unless the calf will soon be slaughtered for their abomasum / meat? Is that what you were hinting at when talking about the veal culture of this dairy region? Thanks!

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Trevor Warmedahl's avatar

The calf is drinking the colostrum as well, they are probably milking the colostrum out to make sure the udder gets completely emptied once or twice a day. This is important to ensure the cow will produce high levels of milk. After the colostrum passes, they will begin using the milk for cheese.

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Stefano Buckley's avatar

Ahh okay cool, thanks Trevor!

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hope caneel johnson's avatar

Why is the whey from Italian cheeses more milky than others? I love your reports. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge

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Trevor Warmedahl's avatar

In many countries where ricotta is not made, there is great care taken to cut curd “efficiently” to prevent loss of fat into the whey.

In Italy I’ve seen a tendency to cut violently and roughly, resulting in a more milky whey. But the fats are not lost, they are recovered in ricotta.

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Melissa's avatar

Thanks! I am making tons of butter that I put in plastic and freeze, but this could be another whey...hehe I also make string cheese, so I will be playing with this concept soon. I love my wild cheese, still going from the kefir grains you shared with me 2 years ago. Always lovely cheese.

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Della's avatar

You're a Richard Schultes of sorts, an ethonopastoralist investigating the living cultures still thriving in the unsterilized fissures of the world. I feel this is incredibly important work, we must not lose the old ways, but come to understand them.

The global microbiotia are our friends, here to help in every aspect of life. From the emerging entheogenic consciousness culture to the healing of our guts, those of us who are paying attention see the vital role these invisible helpers play in the experience of being alive.

I am a grateful supporter of your work. Perhaps one day a book will come of this. And then another...

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Trevor Warmedahl's avatar

That’s a huge compliment, and I wouldn’t be doing this if not for the experiences I’ve had with plant and amphibian medicines.

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Trevor Warmedahl's avatar

The first book is on the way!

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Della's avatar

Fantastic news!

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Stephanie Moncayo Florez's avatar

A heartfelt thank you, deeply grateful for your work. I wonder, have you ever seen anyone milking into ceramic vessels? Or making in them? I imagine it would be a similar protocol, daily use and keep whey in it.

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Wren Lizabeth's avatar

My interest is peaked at the time capsule of preservation methods foraged from the same land with the intent of immediate consumption. And the resourcefulness of land based packaging for storage and transport.

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Trevor Warmedahl's avatar

Thanks Wren. I really like this phrase, “land based packaging”. It’s an avenue of natural cheesemaking I’m keen to explore.

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Bardi.godzi's avatar

Man thanks for sharing all your first-hand experiences of this magical process. Altho the story was long, I couldn’t keep my eyes away from it till the end !

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P. F. Hattrick's avatar

Another good one. I always look forward to your letters. Thank you.

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